STBB #632
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DJ Dope-Needlz
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Think i'm gonna skip this one.
I used to do poly-rhythmic patterns when i was learning a Sound-Design course and i Always thought it didn't make any sense musically. Thought it sounded wrong.
I used to do poly-rhythmic patterns when i was learning a Sound-Design course and i Always thought it didn't make any sense musically. Thought it sounded wrong.
DJ Dope-Needlz said:
that's cool..
think its a nice challenge to make it sound dope somehow.
it doesn't have to be throughout the whole track.
but as you've learned about it, can you maybe tell me..
my initial thought was percussion played during a 4/4 kick and snare beat in an off grid way.. is that poly rythmic?
dont_quixote
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Just found it on YT, quite well explained:
Oh nice i've been meaning to get into polyrhythmic drums for ages! 
Dilla for example uses it on a few tracks where there is one chop part that loops after 7 bars rather than the usual 4 or 8 etc, but the rest of the parts loop on the 4 or 8, 16 etc as usual for 4/4 time signature tracks. Or DJ Premier playing 5 chops over 2 bars on The Return of the Crooklyn Dodgers. (Videos on using these teks below)
It's also actually a really good way to get the likes of a looping drum part for example sound far more live and interesting than if it was in the same time signature as the rest of the drums as it's always creating new rhythmic patterns in conjunction with the rest of the drums yet still being repetitive enough to make sense rhythmically.
Here's a good article on it for more guidance if anyone needs it:
blog.landr.com
Half of what STBB is about for me is pushing us to flip records, create vibes, and play beats we may not normally, so something like this is a great challenge for most of us IMO.
As already said, it doesn't need to be anything too complex, so even just a part that goes polyrhythmic will be in the spirit of the rules.
Dilla for example uses it on a few tracks where there is one chop part that loops after 7 bars rather than the usual 4 or 8 etc, but the rest of the parts loop on the 4 or 8, 16 etc as usual for 4/4 time signature tracks. Or DJ Premier playing 5 chops over 2 bars on The Return of the Crooklyn Dodgers. (Videos on using these teks below)
It's also actually a really good way to get the likes of a looping drum part for example sound far more live and interesting than if it was in the same time signature as the rest of the drums as it's always creating new rhythmic patterns in conjunction with the rest of the drums yet still being repetitive enough to make sense rhythmically.
Here's a good article on it for more guidance if anyone needs it:
What Is a Polyrhythm? How to Use This Swirling Rhythmic Pattern in Your Music
Learning and using polyrhythms and polymeter may sound hard. But with a few simple concepts they're easier to wrap your mind around than you think.
blog.landr.com
Half of what STBB is about for me is pushing us to flip records, create vibes, and play beats we may not normally, so something like this is a great challenge for most of us IMO.
As already said, it doesn't need to be anything too complex, so even just a part that goes polyrhythmic will be in the spirit of the rules.
Here's a good example of a polyrhythmic track from a STBB past:
addington snare
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That was fun!
Supafly Arturo
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Still feeling pretty vague on poly rhythm but I think I do it a whole bunch in my songs anyways so I'ma see what I can do
Supafly Arturo said:
Yeah us beatmakers often naturally do when we we layer up multiple chops of samples which have different rhythms, or we play chops in a polyrhythmic way against our beat without possibly actively realising we are doing it.
If you still aren't sure maybe just try experimenting with playing some chops on top of some drums at a different time signature? Or even just playing some triplet drums on a 4/4 beat would still meet the rules for this weeks STBB.
CHiLLWiLL1013
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Supafly Arturo
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Word, I appreciate the tips, thanks!B-Jam vs Enos said:Supafly Arturo said:
Yeah us beatmakers often naturally do when we we layer up multiple chops of samples which have different rhythms, or we play chops in a polyrhythmic way against our beat without possibly actively realising we are doing it.
If you still aren't sure maybe just try experimenting with playing some chops on top of some drums at a different time signature? Or even just playing some triplet drums on a 4/4 beat would still meet the rules for this weeks STBB.
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